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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dalien Talbot</title>
		<link>http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2008/some-clarifications#comment-4344</link>
		<dc:creator>Dalien Talbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dandellion original post: no worries. :) I think noone misunderstood you. It's a mostly theoretical exercise anyway. Like I said yesterday - after I bought the 1L new hair, and then spent another 1000L on other hairs, in the end I am wearing just that particular 1L hair. So should keep us up for sometime. If they demand more money, let me know. Just keep walking. /Johnny. :)

@dandellion last-before-last: *lol* 

@prok: we &#60;3 you. (this time without any extra tries. *sends more flowers*)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dandellion original post: no worries. :) I think noone misunderstood you. It&#8217;s a mostly theoretical exercise anyway. Like I said yesterday - after I bought the 1L new hair, and then spent another 1000L on other hairs, in the end I am wearing just that particular 1L hair. So should keep us up for sometime. If they demand more money, let me know. Just keep walking. /Johnny. :)</p>
<p>@dandellion last-before-last: *lol* </p>
<p>@prok: we &lt;3 you. (this time without any extra tries. *sends more flowers*)</p>
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		<title>By: dandellion</title>
		<link>http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2008/some-clarifications#comment-4335</link>
		<dc:creator>dandellion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, sorry that Akismet was rude about you :) Thanks for getting at the things straight and clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, sorry that Akismet was rude about you :) Thanks for getting at the things straight and clear.</p>
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		<title>By: dandellion</title>
		<link>http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2008/some-clarifications#comment-4333</link>
		<dc:creator>dandellion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extropian ideology? Is that some new role-playing I haven't heard of, or are you hallucinating again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extropian ideology? Is that some new role-playing I haven&#8217;t heard of, or are you hallucinating again?</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy Neva</title>
		<link>http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2008/some-clarifications#comment-4326</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy Neva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dandellion, it isn't exactly true that land has a fixed price, as on the mainland, it is sold at auction. Oh, to be sure, the Lindens start a bid at $1250 for whole sims and at I believe 5/meter or something on parcels. Still, it has a very high range after that.

Your idea of what it means for an economy to be "ok" will be ideologically driven by your Extroprianism or whatever it is your ideology is. You can say anybody has an ideology, but mine isn't as rigid, looking for signs and rules and memes. I can concede the need for social responsibility that anarcho-capitalists can never concede as they believe it harms freedom. I can say that freebies should be sold without fear as it will help the newbie economy, even though the creator fascists will screech that this is "theft" (then...don't put it on sell/transfer then). And so on. The definition of what is "ok" will vary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dandellion, it isn&#8217;t exactly true that land has a fixed price, as on the mainland, it is sold at auction. Oh, to be sure, the Lindens start a bid at $1250 for whole sims and at I believe 5/meter or something on parcels. Still, it has a very high range after that.</p>
<p>Your idea of what it means for an economy to be &#8220;ok&#8221; will be ideologically driven by your Extroprianism or whatever it is your ideology is. You can say anybody has an ideology, but mine isn&#8217;t as rigid, looking for signs and rules and memes. I can concede the need for social responsibility that anarcho-capitalists can never concede as they believe it harms freedom. I can say that freebies should be sold without fear as it will help the newbie economy, even though the creator fascists will screech that this is &#8220;theft&#8221; (then&#8230;don&#8217;t put it on sell/transfer then). And so on. The definition of what is &#8220;ok&#8221; will vary.</p>
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		<title>By: Freebie Challenge - Should I? &#171; Double Entendre</title>
		<link>http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2008/some-clarifications#comment-4323</link>
		<dc:creator>Freebie Challenge - Should I? &#171; Double Entendre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Harper would say ;). Living in the Metaverse wrote a couple of opinions on To Free or Not to Free (read the clarification, as well). Around the Grid with Harper and Myg got a track backs from New World Notes about the economic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Harper would say ;). Living in the Metaverse wrote a couple of opinions on To Free or Not to Free (read the clarification, as well). Around the Grid with Harper and Myg got a track backs from New World Notes about the economic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dandellion</title>
		<link>http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2008/some-clarifications#comment-4322</link>
		<dc:creator>dandellion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure dear. I'll tell you when we meet. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure dear. I&#8217;ll tell you when we meet. :)</p>
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		<title>By: London Spengler</title>
		<link>http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2008/some-clarifications#comment-4318</link>
		<dc:creator>London Spengler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmm.... I want to make some clarifications: I was only kidding when I asked about the bitching thing, and now I feel a bit worried about opening a door I maybe am not ready to cross...

....  I mean, long, confessional posts? do you know the time it takes to read them? And then it comes commenting, and all the follow ups, and... 

*winks*

...Can I take back the question as a clear case of misunderstanding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmm&#8230;. I want to make some clarifications: I was only kidding when I asked about the bitching thing, and now I feel a bit worried about opening a door I maybe am not ready to cross&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;.  I mean, long, confessional posts? do you know the time it takes to read them? And then it comes commenting, and all the follow ups, and&#8230; </p>
<p>*winks*</p>
<p>&#8230;Can I take back the question as a clear case of misunderstanding?</p>
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		<title>By: dandellion</title>
		<link>http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2008/some-clarifications#comment-4316</link>
		<dc:creator>dandellion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>London, I appreciate your attempt to close the open source discussion but, as you can see, that is not going to be that easy. As you know, I am slow but I do answer your questions with long confessional post, so you'll know when and why I do feel as a bitch.

Prokofy, nothing is wrong with land barons. They do an important service in the community and get payed for that. Problem is that land has fixed price and there is no free market if one set of items has fixed price.
And that was the point of this clarification, I am not hunting bad guys nor trying to declare good guys. Nor I wanted to start a witch hunt, though it seems that many were ready to fight their own imaginary battles. 
Question was if our economy is ok, if it can be better and what we can do about it. 

I don't think that freebies are bad for the economy. They actually improves the look of our world. Also, they are keeping a few newbies more on the grid.

Who pays for my game? Which game we are talking about? Second life? Or game of this operating system and free software that runs on my hardware? Or the game called "my first life"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>London, I appreciate your attempt to close the open source discussion but, as you can see, that is not going to be that easy. As you know, I am slow but I do answer your questions with long confessional post, so you&#8217;ll know when and why I do feel as a bitch.</p>
<p>Prokofy, nothing is wrong with land barons. They do an important service in the community and get payed for that. Problem is that land has fixed price and there is no free market if one set of items has fixed price.<br />
And that was the point of this clarification, I am not hunting bad guys nor trying to declare good guys. Nor I wanted to start a witch hunt, though it seems that many were ready to fight their own imaginary battles.<br />
Question was if our economy is ok, if it can be better and what we can do about it. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that freebies are bad for the economy. They actually improves the look of our world. Also, they are keeping a few newbies more on the grid.</p>
<p>Who pays for my game? Which game we are talking about? Second life? Or game of this operating system and free software that runs on my hardware? Or the game called &#8220;my first life&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Prokofy</title>
		<link>http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2008/some-clarifications#comment-4310</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokofy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to see why there is anything "evil" about "land barons". They work hard, create content, and people pay for it because they value it.

Indeed, Linden Lab's very business model, which makes this entire enchilada possible, is based on the premise that land costs something because server hardware and programmers' time costs something.

Excessive freebies are the bane of SL existence and harm most of all the newbie-to-newbie economy that could thrive and create much more opportunity for people starting if these condescending and controlling oldbies and midbies didn't flood every market with their free non-mod non-transfer junk.

If it is on transfer, then it should indeed be resold to create value, and anyone who puts a freebie on transfer must assume it will be sold and not kvetch about it.

This copyleft stuff that all software has to be free is silly, because somebody always has to pay.

Who pays for *your* game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see why there is anything &#8220;evil&#8221; about &#8220;land barons&#8221;. They work hard, create content, and people pay for it because they value it.</p>
<p>Indeed, Linden Lab&#8217;s very business model, which makes this entire enchilada possible, is based on the premise that land costs something because server hardware and programmers&#8217; time costs something.</p>
<p>Excessive freebies are the bane of SL existence and harm most of all the newbie-to-newbie economy that could thrive and create much more opportunity for people starting if these condescending and controlling oldbies and midbies didn&#8217;t flood every market with their free non-mod non-transfer junk.</p>
<p>If it is on transfer, then it should indeed be resold to create value, and anyone who puts a freebie on transfer must assume it will be sold and not kvetch about it.</p>
<p>This copyleft stuff that all software has to be free is silly, because somebody always has to pay.</p>
<p>Who pays for *your* game?</p>
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		<title>By: London Spengler</title>
		<link>http://metaverse.acidzen.org/2008/some-clarifications#comment-4308</link>
		<dc:creator>London Spengler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I saw it in your profile "the communist script kiddie"; no problem with communist, but script kiddie is hard to swallow unless you put it in perspective :-p. 

Maybe I helped centering in that impression by citing the "bullshit" phrase, and using it for getting open source in the lot, even if I only did at your comments. And not, I am not starting again about open source. I don't worry too much about it, or freebies, but about the holiness that seems to surround it; I tend to get annoyed when people say,  "It is good, and that's all". 

And I insist, I am not going about it again! Please, let us forget about it :-p.

I agree with your need off letting things clear, but I doubt that anybody who took the effort to read your post should get other impresion that the one you stated there, and now here.

Now, about you "being a bitch sometimes", when and how? I feel curious :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I saw it in your profile &#8220;the communist script kiddie&#8221;; no problem with communist, but script kiddie is hard to swallow unless you put it in perspective :-p. </p>
<p>Maybe I helped centering in that impression by citing the &#8220;bullshit&#8221; phrase, and using it for getting open source in the lot, even if I only did at your comments. And not, I am not starting again about open source. I don&#8217;t worry too much about it, or freebies, but about the holiness that seems to surround it; I tend to get annoyed when people say,  &#8220;It is good, and that&#8217;s all&#8221;. </p>
<p>And I insist, I am not going about it again! Please, let us forget about it :-p.</p>
<p>I agree with your need off letting things clear, but I doubt that anybody who took the effort to read your post should get other impresion that the one you stated there, and now here.</p>
<p>Now, about you &#8220;being a bitch sometimes&#8221;, when and how? I feel curious :-)</p>
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